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Wiki for the Intel SS-4200 NAS Devices

 

This is a wiki for the Intel SS-4200 NAS/ Windows Home Server units.  They come in two versions, the SS-4200E which runs a copy of Linux (With EMC utilities) and the SS-4200EHW which comes with no OS loaded (supposedly possible to install Windows Home Server on it).

 

Fujitsu-Siemens rebadges these devices as Scaleo Home Server.

 

The hardware is basically a standard PC with a 1.6GHz Celeron Core Solo and 512MB RAM.  Capacity for 4 SATA Drives with a standard IDE Header as well.  The SS4200-E units use a DOM (Disk On Module) which is a Solid State Disk (SSD) loaded with Linux and EMC utilities.

 

 

Google Group

Given the relatively limited interface here for threaded converstations, a group at google groups has been created:  http://groups.google.com/group/ss4200.

 

 

Reviews

Intel Entry Storage System SS4200-E Review on SmallNetBuilder.com

 

Pictures of the SS4200 and its components

Pictures

 

Hardware

Console Access via RS232

Detected Hardware

  • SiI 3132 SATA300 controller drives eSATA ports
  • Intel ICH7R controller drives 4 internal SATA ports and PATA port
  • If you are running a custom kernel you can use this driver to control the LEDs.

 

Intel - Product Discontinuance Announcement

Intel is announcing the discontinuance of the IntelĀ® Entry Storage System SS4200-E and SS4200-EHW.

 

Issues

Performance Note - Disabling Drive Command Queuing

Boot Issues - Power light flashes continuously

Drive Issues - Issues with Samsung HD501LJ Drives

Drive Issues - Boot issues with WD Drives

Stability Issues - Device prevents new SMB connections

Support Notes - Access to the Device support page 

NFS Issues - Invalid arguments when copying files    

System lock-up with long filename - Asian words

Drive fault - Dashboard on web interface will not load

Unable To Join To Windows Server 2008 Domain

Possible elevated PSU Failure rate considerations

SIL3132 Windows Server 2008 x64 Driver

 

BIOS

BIOS screenshots

 

EMC NAS Software (Native Intel Software)

Convert SS4200-EHW to SS4200-E 

Enable SSH Access on the SS4200-E

Configure a scheduled reboot on the SS4200-E

Startup and Shutdown SS4200 with a small Tool

Prevent overwrite of exports file, enable no_root_squash

 

Windows Home Server

Windows Home Server Installation - Intel Documentation

Windows Home Server Installation - Notes

Windows refund on Scaleo 2200 (SS4200-E)

SS4200 / Fujitsu Scaleo Windows Home server forums on WeGotServed (WHS Forum Site)

 

Linux

Linux lspci output

Enable Leds under Debian

Ubuntu 9.10 amd64 on the SS4200 (using null-modem cable and USB cd drive)

 

 

FreeBSD

OpenBSD

 

FreeNAS

FreeNAS 0.69 

FreeNAS 0_70

 

OpenFiler

 

Check out : https://forums.openfiler.com/viewtopic.php?pid=9883#p9883

Openfiler migration (preserve data on Raid Volume)

 

 

EMC Iomega NAS

 

Since Intel had deprecated its SOHO NAS line (at least the SS4200e series), I suspect they will not provide updates for the OEM EMC Lifeline software which is currently at version 1.1.11.32736. The latest version for the 'official' EMC Iomega NAS lines is 2.0.15.43099. Here is the link for the latest version applicable to the StorCenter pro ix4-200r NAS appliance (which is very similar to the SS4200e - Celeron Proc, 4 drive bays, 1 GB RAM, 1xNIC, etc.) but in a 1U rack form. Here is the DL for the Iomega FW version 2.x:

 

https://iomega-eu-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/iomega_eu_en.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=21775&p_created=1239816138&p_sid=gvB2DNVj&p_accessibility=&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD04LDgmcF9wcm9kcz00LDEwNjgmcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PTIuMTA2OCZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX25sJnBfc2NmXzk9MTcyJnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1

 

Obviously depending on how the kernel was compiled for OEM versions will govern the portability of this version for the SS4200e. In any case I will attempt to load the 2.x version to the DOM on my SS4200e and report the findings. 

 

Additional Hardware

 

SS4200 hardware is capable of accessing eSATA port-multiplier based enclosures. Note that this fact is not enough for successful use of those; you will also need software that supports port multiplying -- for example, native EMC software does not have such support; Linux does, and so does FreeBSD starting with version 8.0. FreeNAS 0.8 and greater will support it if you add respective kernel modules.

 

Verified hardware:

  •  Lian-Li EX-50 external HD array case in port multiplier mode;
  • Sans Digital TowerRAID TR8M enclosure;

 

Comments (Show all 89)

redhotchili said

at 6:22 am on Jan 18, 2010

Thats okay..anyway this machine runs all day with no need to restart..
I tried out almost every setting and boot order in BIOS..but WHS won't boot in normal mode resp. crashed with blue screen after windows logo..
But as i said..i can live with emergeny mode.. :-)
Thanks, Andy

Ra6 said

at 8:28 pm on Jan 25, 2010

redhot, rather than waste too much time getting the 70 needed for WHS onto the IDE (which is locked in slow speed anyway), you might want to consider that you need to create a recovery disk and you will need to get a blank dom (they are cheap) and install the code fujitsu used if you ever need to recover WHS, which is a likely scenario over a couple of years use.

So to safely use a self installed OEM WHS on the ss4200E or EHW (non WHS retailed) you need to do some planning:
1) buy a dom and locate and put the software fujitus used in its WHS model to allow recover from client PC
see this: http://support.ts.fujitsu.com/download/showdescription_kmt.asp?ID=5BA15BF2-3687-4B7B-8901-7FDDFF99844D
2) build a recovery disk, which is possible on an OEM slipstream installation, but you are going to need to do before you start using WHS (so called point of no return)
see this: http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-IE/whssoftware/thread/8c3ea059-9928-4d7e-ae0f-49782bdcbfdc

Ra6 said

at 8:30 pm on Jan 25, 2010

In other words you can never recover if the WHS is in the IDE because the IDE is needed for memory module that instructs the machine on how to find a recovery disk to fix WHS.

redhotchili said

at 2:35 am on Feb 3, 2010

Thanks Ra6!
Meanwhile i give up my WHS via IDE cause as you said, the IDE port is locked to very slow speed.
Now i installed WHS via SATA. Unfortunately i had to give up my RAID5 array (WHS won't boot from RAID array greater than 2 TB) and let WHS duplicate important files for backup. I thinks thats the only solution for me..

Frank de Lange said

at 3:43 am on Feb 3, 2010

how about installing WHS on a USB stick and using it that way? Those should be visible even to Windows...

redhotchili said

at 3:56 am on Feb 3, 2010

Don't know if WHS will boot from USB stick (problems while WHS initialize USB driver?) And i think even a good USB stick is too slow (about 15MB/s) compared with current HDDs via SATA (about 100MB/s)..

Frank de Lange said

at 5:05 am on Feb 3, 2010

It is not ideal, true, but it might be the best alternative - if Windows boots from one. The speed should be less of an issue as the drive is only used to boot from and the most used code will end up in cache.

If Windows boots you should be able to keep your RAID this way.

Frank de Lange said

at 5:06 am on Feb 3, 2010

Of course you can always try to get familiar with FreeNAS or a Linux. It might save you more headaches than the familiarizing process causes?

redhotchili said

at 5:34 am on Feb 3, 2010

Okay thanks Frank, maybe i'll give it a try! :-)

Al said

at 12:13 pm on Feb 8, 2010

@WESHA

how did u setup ZFS on ur ss4200?

i am trying to setup FreeNas with ZFS on my ss4200

Wesha said

at 1:09 pm on Feb 8, 2010

@Al: There's a page on this wiki dedicated to FreeNAS. Read, and be enlightened.

Al said

at 1:17 pm on Feb 8, 2010

ok thx i will
its just that i am completely new to this

Ra6 said

at 10:12 am on Feb 10, 2010

Freinds,
I have added a link to the main and most active forums specifically for WHS on the ss4200. It is on WeGotServed.com fours wihich is a majoe WHS forum, and they have a specific and active sub- forum on WHS on this hardware.

David Wong said

at 2:56 am on Feb 11, 2010

Hi,

I need a help to migrate data manually since EMC Lifeline, Freenas, Openfiler don't support it on their web interface. linux has mdadm command that seems would achieve my migration scenario.

I have 2 2TB internal HD, both formatted as NTFS. I use SATA to USB dock to access them in Windows 7. I want RAID 5 to protect my data from the single drive failure scenario. One HD is 100% full, the other one is 50% full. I bought 2 new 2TB HDs. I really don’t want to lose the data while converting to 4 disk RAID 5 configuration using SS4200-e. Can someone please verify my steps to see if they work or not? I will test it on VMWare before performing it on the real rig. THANKS and any suggestions would be greatly appreciate.

Enable SSH.

Install 4 disk in the following order
/dev/sda is new 2TB HD
/dev/sdb is new 2TB HD
/dev/sdc is 2TB HD with 1TB data on NTFS
/dev/sdd is 2TB HD with 2TB data on NTFS

Ssh to the console

mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sda /dev/sdb missing missing

mkfs -t xfs -L RAID5 /dev/md0

mkdir /mnt/RAID5

mount /dev/md0 /mnt/RAID5

mkdir /mnt/1TB_HD

mount /dev/sdc /mnt/1TB_HD

rsync -avH --delete --progress -x /mnt/1TB_HD /mnt/RAID5

mkdir /mnt/2TB_HD

mount /dev/sdd /mnt/2TB_HD

rsync -avH --delete --progress -x /mnt/2TB_HD /mnt/RAID5

use blkid to get UUID of /dev/md0 and place in the /etc/fstab

nano /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf

mdadm --detail --scan >> /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf

update-initramfs -k `uname -r` -c -t

destroy the volumes on /dev/sdc and /dev/sdd

mdadm /dev/md0 –a /dev/sdc /dev/sdd

CyberLeo said

at 6:13 am on Feb 11, 2010

@David Wong: raid5 can only suffer the loss of, at most, one member. Creating a raid5 with two missing members will not function.

You may be able to create a 3-member degraded raid5 with 1 missing member, copy your data over, then add the newly freed disk to the RAID5 and wait for it to finish rebuilding; then copy and free up your fourth disk and reshape the array across all four. However, the reshape function in md has caused me grief in the past, and it is very strongly recommended that you back up all the data on the array prior to attempting reshape, so this pretty much moots your effort.

Unless you're really feeling adventurous (or suicidal), I would suggest getting one or two more disks to fashion a complete array without having to juggle and pray; and then just keep whatever you don't use as spares in case of disk failure in the array.

David Wong said

at 12:41 pm on Feb 11, 2010

Thanks CyberLeo!!!

EMC Lifeline supports 2 or 4 disks configuration. When 2 disks are installed, the RAID level is set to 1.

Install 2 new 2TB HDs and use the web interface to build RAID 1

Copy up to 2 TB of data from my old 2TB HDs via eSATA to the newly built RAID 1 array

Destroy the volume on the old 2TB HDs

Install them into slot 3 and 4 of ss4200-e

With 4 HDs in place, will I be able to select RAID 5 in the web interface? If yes, that’s great. If not, I have to run mdadm to re-shape the array then.

CyberLeo said

at 2:32 pm on Feb 11, 2010

@David Wong:
I'm afraid I am not familiar with the EMC Lifeline firmware. I build my own firmware based off FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-amd64.

However, given the common use case for consumer NAS firmwares, I would not be surprised if, assuming it were possible in the first place, it made you jump through hoops that would make hackers pale just to accomplish what you're suggesting, and at significant risk of data loss at that.

Given my knowledge of the Linux md driver, the only way to turn a 2-disk RAID1 into a RAID5 for reshaping is to destroy it and (carefully) recreate it without reinitializing the constituent disks. Certainly something that is not without risk, and can be difficult to recover if it goes awry.

Ben said

at 8:53 am on Feb 18, 2010

Hey All - great info here...I do have one issue with the EMC software on the DOM. I used a printer on this device which worked great. However, I purchased a new printer and I cannot remove the older printer from the Devices List on the webpage. Everytime I try and delete it, the page just refreshes, but the printer is still there. If someone knows the location in Linux for printer installs, I may be able to just delete it from there using ssh??

Gated said

at 6:19 am on Mar 5, 2010

To all the good information I have found from this forum. I would like to add few quick notes, which i have learned setting up 2008 with this box.
1) If you need to use IDE port with HD then you must configure in bios setting for IDE to "Compatible". Any Other setting will not work and Windows will not recognize IDE HDs.
2) Do keep in mind that adding IDE HD increases load on your PSU by 25 Watts. (Same thing to remember when trying to add PCI X1 t oX16 adapter and High power video cards). Overloading the PSU will blow it away.
3) I have not found 2008 Server driver for Si3132 ESATA Chipset for this box yet.



Gated said

at 6:40 am on Mar 5, 2010

Update to above comment.
Setting IDE to "Compatible" will take away the 2 sata ports and you will have 2 IDE ports and 2 Sata ports in windows.

Rafal said

at 1:18 am on Mar 6, 2010

Does anybody know how to edit twonkymedia-server.ini file. This file is loaded as read only during a boot and I would like to change enableweb setting from 1 to 2

# Web access
enableweb=1

Ben said

at 5:26 am on Mar 7, 2010

Rafal,

The only way I have heard to do this was to removed the DOM and mount it into a Linux Workstation somehow (using a IDE to USB adapter). If you find another way, let us know...but I think this locaiton is read-only when

Ben said

at 5:29 am on Mar 7, 2010

All - I also found out how to remove the printer that is no longer attached to my home serve(a few posts up)r...I had to install the Lifeline aoftware on my PC then delete it...I was try to do all of the printer management just using the web.

Frank de Lange said

at 5:51 am on Mar 7, 2010

Rafal,

If you have access to the serial console you should be able to boot the box using a usb memory stick containing some live linux distribution (grml comes to mind) and edit the file that way. This is easier than removing the DOM...

MrHappy said

at 2:57 am on Mar 9, 2010

Does anyone know how to get the default EMC software to recognize a USB attached UPS? I've tried 3 different UPS models and all 4 USB ports (on each model) with no luck.

Ben said

at 3:33 am on Mar 9, 2010

MrHappy - I was able to get my UPS to show up under the "PowerManagement" section, but it took about 2 hours and a reboot. I use the front USB port as well as the back and it worked for both. I think you may just need to reboot, or leave it pluged into a USB port for a few hours

FYI - the UPS looses power abd goes into the battery mode, the EMC software will shut the server down as expected (usually in about 1-2 minutes)

MrHappy said

at 1:29 pm on Mar 9, 2010

What kind of UPS was it? I tried rebooting (twice) and let it sit for hours, still shows nothing connected and I know the USB port is good, if I plug it into my PC it fires right up in the software.

Ben said

at 11:06 pm on Mar 9, 2010

MrHappy - I purchased a CyberPower UPS from MicroCenter (550VA UPS was the model number) (SKU at MicroCenter is 357939).
Have you updated the firmware on your HomeServer yet? I cant remember the latest version, but I think its the last version (this Home Server is no longer supported by Intel)

MrHappy said

at 1:50 am on Mar 11, 2010

Thanks... apparently my Belkin (pos but it was free) doesn't like this thing or vice versa as it just won't show up. (Left it connected overnight following a full shutdown/power up cycle) Firmware is the latest available from intel (around 10/2009 I believe)

MrHappy said

at 5:03 am on Mar 17, 2010

Has anyone connected to their box (with the EMC software/firmware updated) from an OpenSuse box? I'm trying to setup NFS and have enabled it on the Intel side, and rebooted. My Suse box sees the NFS shares under network services (browsing) but can't see any data inside (and the shares and not secured on the Intel at this time). If I try to setup a mount it finds the host but gives an Unable to mount the NFS entries from /etc/fstab when I click ok to enable it (using default settings) Any advice?

Rafal said

at 5:25 am on Apr 4, 2010

Frank de Lange & Ben,

I was able to mount DOM onto Linux (Fendora) and FS layout is completely different.

/grub
e2fs_stage1_5
menu.lst
stage1
stage2
/images
apps
config
initrd
oem
vmlinuz
/lost + found
/recovery_images
"same as images"

Anyway, it appears that all 3rd party including twonky is compiled into apps file. This file is pretty big since it has 33 MB and you can read anything there (vi, cat)....
It it appears there is no way to edit any files here unless you can recompile this apps file ... Does anybody have any other idea here?

jo said

at 4:44 pm on Apr 29, 2010

Gallymimus,

Did you get the Iomega soft to work on the SS4200?
Any new features of interest?

Thanks,
Jo.

d said

at 10:04 pm on May 11, 2010

I too would be interested if the IOMEGA s/w works onthe SS4200! Any progress? -d

NikonMan said

at 12:45 am on May 14, 2010

All,

I tried to install the Iomega NAS OS (EMC Lifeline v2) to the SS4200 ... it recognizes the image and starts the install, then fails with a cyrptic error message concerning incompatible hardware. Sorry guys ... anyways I am running FreenNAS 7.2 on one of my Intel NAS's and will soon install NexentaCore Community Edition
http://www.nexentastor.org/projects/site/wiki/CommunityEdition on the second one as soon as I get a larger DOM.

d said

at 4:41 am on Jan 8, 2011

Does anyone know where to get various prebuilt images for the SS4200-E? I'd like to use another system since Intel is no longer updating there but, if possible, I would rather avoid having to buy video cards and compile kernels or install from scratch. TIA! -d

d said

at 6:14 am on Jan 8, 2011

So with the above ISO, I can buy a DOM and just image it, plug it into the SS4200-E and it's up and running with some minor configuration? Thx.

Wesha said

at 6:18 am on Jan 8, 2011

There are some peculiarities when installing, see http://ss4200.pbworks.com/w/page/5122750/FreeNAS-0_70

Ben said

at 12:45 pm on Jan 24, 2012

Anyone able to use VMWARE converter to convert this machine into a VMWARE image? I cannot get VMware converter connect. getting error message "...must enable ssh deamon..." something like that....please help a *nix noob

Ben said

at 12:46 pm on Jan 24, 2012

and SSH is enabled using the ip/support.html

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