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Wiki for the Intel SS-4200 NAS Devices

 

This is a wiki for the Intel SS-4200 NAS/ Windows Home Server units.  They come in two versions, the SS-4200E which runs a copy of Linux (With EMC utilities) and the SS-4200EHW which comes with no OS loaded (supposedly possible to install Windows Home Server on it).

 

Fujitsu-Siemens rebadges these devices as Scaleo Home Server.

 

The hardware is basically a standard PC with a 1.6GHz Celeron Core Solo and 512MB RAM.  Capacity for 4 SATA Drives with a standard IDE Header as well.  The SS4200-E units use a DOM (Disk On Module) which is a Solid State Disk (SSD) loaded with Linux and EMC utilities.

 

 

Google Group

Given the relatively limited interface here for threaded converstations, a group at google groups has been created:  http://groups.google.com/group/ss4200.

 

 

Reviews

Intel Entry Storage System SS4200-E Review on SmallNetBuilder.com

 

Pictures of the SS4200 and its components

Pictures

 

Hardware

Console Access via RS232

Detected Hardware

  • SiI 3132 SATA300 controller drives eSATA ports
  • Intel ICH7R controller drives 4 internal SATA ports and PATA port
  • If you are running a custom kernel you can use this driver to control the LEDs.

 

Intel - Product Discontinuance Announcement

Intel is announcing the discontinuance of the IntelĀ® Entry Storage System SS4200-E and SS4200-EHW.

 

Issues

Performance Note - Disabling Drive Command Queuing

Boot Issues - Power light flashes continuously

Drive Issues - Issues with Samsung HD501LJ Drives

Drive Issues - Boot issues with WD Drives

Stability Issues - Device prevents new SMB connections

Support Notes - Access to the Device support page 

NFS Issues - Invalid arguments when copying files    

System lock-up with long filename - Asian words

Drive fault - Dashboard on web interface will not load

Unable To Join To Windows Server 2008 Domain

Possible elevated PSU Failure rate considerations

SIL3132 Windows Server 2008 x64 Driver

 

BIOS

BIOS screenshots

 

EMC NAS Software (Native Intel Software)

Convert SS4200-EHW to SS4200-E 

Enable SSH Access on the SS4200-E

Configure a scheduled reboot on the SS4200-E

Startup and Shutdown SS4200 with a small Tool

Prevent overwrite of exports file, enable no_root_squash

 

Windows Home Server

Windows Home Server Installation - Intel Documentation

Windows Home Server Installation - Notes

Windows refund on Scaleo 2200 (SS4200-E)

SS4200 / Fujitsu Scaleo Windows Home server forums on WeGotServed (WHS Forum Site)

 

Linux

Linux lspci output

Enable Leds under Debian

Ubuntu 9.10 amd64 on the SS4200 (using null-modem cable and USB cd drive)

 

 

FreeBSD

OpenBSD

 

FreeNAS

FreeNAS 0.69 

FreeNAS 0_70

 

OpenFiler

 

Check out : https://forums.openfiler.com/viewtopic.php?pid=9883#p9883

Openfiler migration (preserve data on Raid Volume)

 

 

EMC Iomega NAS

 

Since Intel had deprecated its SOHO NAS line (at least the SS4200e series), I suspect they will not provide updates for the OEM EMC Lifeline software which is currently at version 1.1.11.32736. The latest version for the 'official' EMC Iomega NAS lines is 2.0.15.43099. Here is the link for the latest version applicable to the StorCenter pro ix4-200r NAS appliance (which is very similar to the SS4200e - Celeron Proc, 4 drive bays, 1 GB RAM, 1xNIC, etc.) but in a 1U rack form. Here is the DL for the Iomega FW version 2.x:

 

https://iomega-eu-en.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/iomega_eu_en.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=21775&p_created=1239816138&p_sid=gvB2DNVj&p_accessibility=&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD04LDgmcF9wcm9kcz00LDEwNjgmcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PTIuMTA2OCZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX25sJnBfc2NmXzk9MTcyJnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1

 

Obviously depending on how the kernel was compiled for OEM versions will govern the portability of this version for the SS4200e. In any case I will attempt to load the 2.x version to the DOM on my SS4200e and report the findings. 

 

Additional Hardware

 

SS4200 hardware is capable of accessing eSATA port-multiplier based enclosures. Note that this fact is not enough for successful use of those; you will also need software that supports port multiplying -- for example, native EMC software does not have such support; Linux does, and so does FreeBSD starting with version 8.0. FreeNAS 0.8 and greater will support it if you add respective kernel modules.

 

Verified hardware:

  •  Lian-Li EX-50 external HD array case in port multiplier mode;
  • Sans Digital TowerRAID TR8M enclosure;

 

Comments (89)

TinyRK said

at 11:57 pm on Jun 2, 2009

Can somebody upload an Image of the DOM-Drive of the SS4200-E, or can I use the Update-Program INTEL is providing here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&Inst=Yes&ProductID=2910&DwnldID=16295&strOSs=All&OSFullName=All%20Operating%20Systems&lang=eng

TinyRK said

at 5:37 am on Jun 3, 2009

Awesome! Thanks - good work with all these pictures.

jAVELIN said

at 2:54 am on Jun 23, 2009

I have installed the original software on my SS4200-E (updated to the last official version from Intel 1.1.11.32736). I would like to modify my Twonky Mediaserver configuration via web access http://storage:9000/. Unfortunately the web configuration is disabled in the twonkymedia configuration file. Any suggetions how to enable web access?

A_Boring_Username said

at 1:18 pm on Jul 28, 2009

Most of the reviews/specs on this device seem to suggest that this device does not have a print server, but mine does!

My fw version is 1.0.8.29352 and i can successfully print to my Konica Minolt 1400W printer

screenshots:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv352/A_Boring_Username/prtsett.png
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv352/A_Boring_Username/prt.png
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv352/A_Boring_Username/vers.png

Sloe said

at 10:46 am on Aug 8, 2009

I juuust bought a SS4200-E. So far so good! But I do have a question I was hoping to get help/wisdom on... "A Boring Username"... you are the only one that appears to have print server functionality with the EMC LifeLine OS. Would you mind terribly if I ask if you needed to do anything special to get that to work? Or was it a nice side affect of the firmware you are running? I unfortunately cant try that version as I cant roll back from 1.1.11.32736. If its not too much trouble, I'd love to not bang my head on the desk anymore trying to figure this out!

Thanks for your time!! :)

Wesha said

at 10:52 am on Aug 8, 2009

Sloe, read the article here titled "Convert SS4200-EHW to SS4200-E", it outlines how to put 1.0.8.29352 on the device. (you can skip all the hardware stuff, since you already have the solid disk module)

A_Boring_Username said

at 11:09 am on Aug 8, 2009

Print server Just Worked. I didn't have to do anything special.

Sloe said

at 11:19 pm on Aug 8, 2009

Thanks Wesha for pointing me in the right direction! A Boring Username, appreciate you confirming with me!

Sloe said

at 11:28 pm on Aug 15, 2009

Wesha, hope you dont mind me reaching out again. I finally got around to loading up firmware 1.0.8.29352 thanks to your guidance, but after applying it, I still do not have a print server option on the settings page. Am I overlooking something obvious?

Screenshot of Settings Page: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/undercover101/Settings.gif
Screenshot of Firmware Page: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/undercover101/InstalledFirmwareVersion.gif

Just want to make sure I didn't do something wrong. Either way I appreciate all your done!

Wesha said

at 12:00 pm on Aug 23, 2009

Sloe, I have no idea, as I'm running FreeNAS 0.70 (and golly, is ZFS on 4 drives GOOD!) So I have no idea but here's what I found:

"EMC LifeLine adds a convenient print server to your storage appliance, allowing you to attach any ***supported*** printers and print from any computer " (http://www.emc.com/collateral/software/data-sheet/h2889-emc-lifeline-ds.pdf)

So I would assume Konica is supported and yours isn't?..

Xpl0d3 said

at 5:32 am on Aug 24, 2009

Hey there!

Wanted to ask if someone has already tried to compile apps like openvpn or subversion for the EMC-Linux?

Tried to compile it from a standard linux distribution. It works on this host, but doesn't on the Intel-Box. chmod and chroot is set correctly.

The system just says:
# /mnt/soho_storage/samba/shares/Eigene-Dateien/xplode/bin/svn
-sh: /mnt/soho_storage/samba/shares/Eigene-Dateien/xplode/bin/svn: not found

but the file is there!

# ls -all /mnt/soho_storage/samba/shares/Eigene-Dateien/xplode/bin/svn
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 553471 Aug 11 16:46 /mnt/soho_storage/samba/shares/Eigene-Dateien/xplode/bin/svn


/mnt/soho_storage/samba/shares/Eigene-Dateien/xplode/bin/svn: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped


The BusyBox-Bin says:
# file /bin/busybox
/bin/busybox: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped


so it's not that different, is it?

Can anyone help please?

BTW: i also tried to include those binaries in the /boot/images/apps cramfs-Image so that those bins are accessible through root: /bin/
the problem remains...

lorenzpr said

at 10:29 pm on Aug 26, 2009

hi, is there a way to built in a wlan module?
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thx

Bjørn said

at 8:53 pm on Aug 29, 2009

Is there some one that know if it is possible to use 4 WD Caviar Green WD20EADS 2 TB in the SS4200E or what 1,5TB drive will work?
I intend running the EMC for now...

Wesha said

at 10:26 pm on Aug 29, 2009

lorenzpr: I don't know if you're asking about EMC firmware. With FreeNAS, you can use any supported USB wireless adapter.

Bjorn: I don't see why not, I use 4 x ST31500341AS

Nick said

at 12:14 pm on Sep 15, 2009

I also am trying to edit the twonky configuration through the web interface. I found out that to enable that access the wonkyvision-mediaserver.ini file needs to be modified, but when I open it in vi all I get is tons of garbage like this:
#^@!^@ ^@T^@w^@o^@n^@k^@y^@V^@i^@s^@i^@o^@n^@ ^@i^@n^@i^@ ^@f^@i^@l^@e^@ ^@/^@ ^
^@#^@!^@ ^@c^@h^@a^@n^@g^@e^@ ^@s^@e^@t^@t^@i^@n^@g^@s^@ ^@b^@y^@ ^@c^@o^@m^@m^@
^@#^@!^@ ^@v^@e^@r^@s^@i^@o^@n^@ ^@4^@.^@4^@.^@5^@

Any ideas?
Thanks
Nick

Wesha said

at 1:06 pm on Sep 15, 2009

Looks like it's a binary file, not a plaintext file.

Nick said

at 2:30 pm on Sep 15, 2009

Thats strange, because when I do more wonkyvision-mediaserver.ini I get:
! TwonkyVision ini file / charset UTF-16
#! change settings by commandline or by editing this file
#! version 4.4.5
[main]
....
and so on
Nick

Frank de Lange said

at 6:36 pm on Sep 15, 2009

That looks like a UTF-16 file to me (those ^@ symbols are NULL bytes). You need to use an editor which supports UTF-16. Your vi obviously does not... vi can support it so you'll just have to find a version which does... if it is vim you can try...

:set fenc=ucs-bom

...and reload the file using...

:r wonkyvision-mediaserver.ini

(insert the full path to the file if it is not in the current directory).

Nick said

at 1:02 am on Sep 16, 2009

I am still using the EMC-Linux distribution and the vi that came with it. Unfortunately, I am not too familiar with Linux altogether and don't know if and how I can change or install a new editor or a new version of vi. Not sure if that can be even done with the stock DOM.
Thanks
N

Michael said

at 5:13 am on Sep 16, 2009

vi can be a PITA. Try this instead.

Edit the .ini on your Windows PC in notepad (turn line wrap on) or in Word, etc. Be sure to save as a text file on your local PC. ( If you need to copy the current version of the .ini from the server first, do the following commands with "get" before you do the "put".)

Go here and download psftp. It is a free, secure, and easy to use ftp program for the Windows PC (there is also a GUI version I have not used.) May as well get PuTTY at the same time.

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html

Put the edited .ini file in the same directory as the downloaded psftp. Start psftp. Enter "storage" as the server (or whatever you named your ss4200 box.) Login as "root" and "soho+<your_admin_pasword>"

Type "help" for a list of commands in psftp. Basically you want to "cd" to the directory you want where the .ini is located on the SS4200 box. Use "put twonky-media..." with the full file name to copy from the PC to the Server in teh directory you are currently in (use "pwd" to verify.) You may want to rename the existing .ini file on the Server to .old first, or "cp" to copy to a new name.

Use "bye" to quit. There are both local and remote "dir" commands, or "ls" Linux commands to verify the files.

Tested it on my SS4200 with the EMC Linux 2.6 DOM Load, no problem. (I like this box! Fast, clean simple. Have fun!)

Michael said

at 5:53 am on Sep 16, 2009

Nic,

What Frank meant was to use this command when you are editing the .ini file in your existing version of vi on the EMC install. vi is pretty standard (ie: old ;>)

:set fenc=ucs-bom

Here is a beginning guide to vi. Much more available online:

http://www.computerhope.com/unix/uvi.htm

Frank de Lange said

at 6:04 am on Sep 16, 2009

I guess twonky can also read ASCII files so another thing you might be able to do is open the file in vi and remove all the unwanted ^@ (null) characters:

first make a backup copy of the file, then open it in vi. Now remove the null bytes:

:% s/^@//g

If your vi does not support the % notation (meaning 'whole file') move the cursor to the first line and use this command instead:

:,$ s/^@//g

(this means 'from here to (,) the end of this file ($))

mind that the ^@ is a single character, entered using 'CTRL-V' followed by 'CTRL-@' (which, on a US keyboard, ends up being 'CTRL-SHIFT-2'). Look through the file to see if there is more garbage (probably not), if so remove it. Save the file. Try it - it should work.

By the way, the fact that you can see the contents of the file when you use 'more' means that the OS and shell support UTF-16/UTF-16LE. Does the system have the 'iconv' command? If so you can use it to convert between character encodings:

iconv -f UTF-16 -t ASCII original_file_name > converted_file_name

or

iconv -f UTF-16LE -t ASCII original_file_name > converted_file_name

The difference between UTF-16 and UTF-16LE is that the former has a marker at the start of the file (hex. FFFE) while the latter does not have this. From your posting I guess that the actual file format used is UTF-16LE, not UTF-16.

Nick said

at 11:28 am on Sep 16, 2009

Thanks for your help Frank and Michael. I was able to modify the file by just copying to the public folders, editing with texedit and copying it back. Since I am new to this though, I don't know how to restart the twonky server so the changes take effect. I tired restarting the media server through the web interface, but every time I do this the twonkyvision-mediaserver.ini file gets rewritten and my changes are erased. Do you know a way around this? Or other advice? :)
Thanks

Nick said

at 12:19 pm on Sep 16, 2009

I think I know why that happens. It seems that I was editing the wrong .ini file. The one I was working on was in /mnt/soho_storage/media/twonky while it looks like the twonky installation is in /mnt/apps/usr/local/twonky. Unfortunately, the .ini file in this location is read-only and I cannot seem to be able to change that. The file system is cramfs (mounted as read only) and I don't know if that can be changed at all. Bummer :(

Michael said

at 7:49 am on Sep 19, 2009

Hi Nick! Too many projects/tests going on. I don't have Twonky installed right now. I need another box!

Found this on the Twonky forums about a different install. Should solve your problems. Use "ps" to see processes, and "kill" to shut down Twonky if needed. More info on that in server FAQs on their main page.

"The -appdata commandline option tells it where to look for the INI file and database. If it's storing the database in /var and that's in the Synologys flash, then that is why it's not working. the database needs to be relocated to a larger read/write storage medium (HDD)."

http://www.twonkyforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6755&p=25061&hilit=.ini&sid=86392576aca40431f51403b7ef85ef8d#p25061


Nick said

at 10:58 am on Sep 20, 2009

Hi Michael,
I kinda tried that, but didn't exactly work. the ps command produces this result: /usr/local/twonky/twonkymediaserver -inifile /mnt/soh. I don't know how to display the entire line to see where the inifile is. I was able to stop the twonky server and restart it pointing to a file I modified and I was able to enter the web interface. However, I was not able to preserve the changes made through the web interface. Every time I restarted the server through the web interface, it was resetting to the default settings.... Do you know what file launches the twonkyserver in the first place? Maybe I can edit that file and point to my ini file?
Thanks

Frank de Lange said

at 5:17 pm on Sep 20, 2009

just add 'ww' to the options for ps to show the complete command line:

ps auxww|grep twonkymediaserver

Nick said

at 1:27 am on Sep 21, 2009

Tried this, but all I get is:
# ps auxww|grep twonkymediaserver
3974 root 14300 S /usr/local/twonky/twonkymediaserver -inifile /mnt/soh

Frank de Lange said

at 2:11 am on Sep 21, 2009

Hm, that means that either the version of ps you use (busybox I guess?) does not understand BSD-options or twonky is really called with that inifile. Another way of getting the complete command line is through the /proc filesystem:

ps aux|grep twonky (to get the pid)

cat /proc/<pid>/cmdline (to get the command line)

dan said

at 2:59 am on Sep 21, 2009

Does anyone know if this box will work with LiunxMCE?

Nick said

at 4:08 am on Sep 21, 2009

That what I get:
# cat /proc/cmdline
console=tty0 console=ttyS0,115200

Dave Hansen said

at 4:50 am on Sep 21, 2009

The wiki responses getting a little hard to manage. Does anybody want to discuss this somewhere a bit better suited? Like, http://groups.google.com/group/ss4200 perhaps? (I just created it :)

Frank de Lange said

at 7:34 am on Sep 21, 2009

Nick: you forgot the PID... not /proc/cmdline but /proc/<pid>/cmdline. That '<pid>' stands for the process ID of the twonkymediaserver process, which you can find out using ps. So if the PID for twonkymediaserver is 12345 you'd use:

cat /proc/12345/cmdline

And yes, that Googlegroup might be an idea...

Peter said

at 11:19 am on Sep 21, 2009

Has anyone noticed with the EMC software, on the Dashboard page it shows a reduction in overall total free space? My 750 GB drive should be showing 699 GB and instead it says 657 GB. Settings-> Disks shows 699 GB.
I found this: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/ss4200-e/sb/CS-029717.htm
I would hate to think that I am unable to use 40 gigs of drive space because of ext3...

Anyone have anything to comment on this? The updated software is a bit nicer too. I'm temped to try FreeNAS and use UFS or something thats not limiting.

Meetriks said

at 2:06 pm on Sep 21, 2009

On normal linux you can do something like :

tune2fs -m0 /dev/XXX

Will set the reserve space to 0% and about the logs UFS has probably the same.

Enable SSH on the support page on probaby you can set it t 0%

Or install openfiler!

Nick said

at 3:57 am on Sep 22, 2009

I started a thread on the google group for the twonky config with this post:

Ok. So that command does point to the ini file in /mnt/soho_storage/media/twonky, but I have a feelign that when the server is started through the web interface it overwrites this file with the one from /mnt/apps/usr/local/twonky. The latter one is, unfortunately, read only and I cannot modify. But there should be a config file that loads the server that might be the solution to this issue. I just cant find it. Anyone knows which one it is?

We can continue there at:
http://groups.google.com/group/ss4200/browse_thread/thread/13f6aaeada1f2237#

Bob2000 said

at 3:02 am on Sep 26, 2009

need more screws. Did someone made some "home made" ones ?

Firepower said

at 5:37 pm on Sep 27, 2009

Hi everyone, i have the following problem: First I installed the 1.1.11-Firmware (which removes printer support). Does anyone know how to restore it? (perhaps via ssh-access)
I've tried a downgrade to 1.0.8 already but still no printer icon. But the printer icon definately was there before upgrading to 1.1.11.

Nick said

at 3:14 pm on Oct 5, 2009

I have another problem. I seem to be missing about 200Gigs of space. Is there a way to purge the unused space? It almost seems like it stored a bunch of temp files somewhere....

ideality said

at 1:00 am on Dec 7, 2009

What is the correct type of RAM to purchase, if I want to upgrade this device from the stock 512MB to 1GB. This, together with a UPS will allow me, in a reasonable sort of way, to turn write-caching on.

Thanks.. Michael

redhotchili said

at 7:39 am on Jan 16, 2010

Unfortunately at this moment it seems that it isn't possible to install any Windows (e.g. WHS, XP, Win7..) on a drive plugged via the IDE/PATA interface (where usually the DOM is).
Very strange: the IDE drive is available by BIOS but not by windows installation routine.

When i install the WHS drive via SATA interface and then plug it into IDE/PATA it will crash with a blue screen while booting.

But as windows will not boot from any RAID array greater than 2 TB the IDE/PATA interface is the only usable interface for WHS to seperate the OS from the RAID array for storage..

Did you have any idea? What's your settings for WHS on SS4200 with RAID arrays >2TB?


thanks for your interest, Andy

Wesha said

at 8:00 am on Jan 16, 2010

Do you absolutely HAVE to go with Windows? Trey FreeNAS (see the wikipage above)

redhotchili said

at 1:03 am on Jan 17, 2010

Thanks Wesha..but Yes, i have to go with Windows (especially WHS) cause we want to use some WHS services and to be honest..a BSD OS i just a little bit to complicated for our application..

At this moment..i can boot the WHS drive sucessful via IDE/PATA when i boot in emergency mode (switch off, press and hold pin next to LAN ports, restart but hold the power button down until it goes orange, then release both buttons). In this mode Windows will see the IDE/PATA interface.. But i have to do this procedure for every reboot..

Frank de Lange said

at 2:52 am on Jan 17, 2010

'scuse me for barging in but... BSD more complicated than Windows? Not on this planet. I can see that you might be forced to use Windows if you're doing something 'The Microsoft Way' but anything Windows is more or less by definition more complicated than the same thing on a *nix. This might be my not so humble opinion but it is easily proven with fact - just have a look at any Windows installation and compare this to, say, FreeNAS or GRML or something similar...

Wesha said

at 2:57 am on Jan 17, 2010

Not to start a holy war, but FreeNAS was specifically made easy to install by an end-user, and on SS4200, it supports really huge arrays (I'm running 4 x 1,5TB) not to mention ZFS is absolutely superior to ANY kind of RAID setup.

Frank de Lange said

at 3:04 am on Jan 17, 2010

Oh, and with regard to Windows on these machines I can also speak from experience when I say that WHS is installed on the first drive, not the DOM. The DOM contains a rescue partition which allows you to restore the WHS installation but in normal use it does not run from it. The onlt way to get it to run is, as you have found out, to boot in emergency mode... So if you rely on having access to the PATA interface in normal use you'll have to find a way to make this interface visible when booting in normal mode...

redhotchili said

at 4:45 am on Jan 17, 2010

Thanks people..and sorry, i think i'm not allowed to judge that FreeNAS or something similar is more complicated than Windows..i haven't compared it yet..
So i would say, i prefer the 'The Microsoft Way' cause i'm much more familiar with.. ;-)

I also ask in the intel communities with hope for a firmware update which will give us the possibility to boot Windows from IDE/PATA but i think its a little bit hopeless..

Last question..if i boot my WHS in emergency mode..are there some disadvantages compared with normal mode or can i use it continuous?

Frank de Lange said

at 6:16 am on Jan 17, 2010

The only problem you will have is that the machine will not come up by itself after a reboot. You can try to fiddle with the boot order in the BIOS, maybe you can get it to show the PATA interface in normal mode?

redhotchili said

at 6:22 am on Jan 18, 2010

Thats okay..anyway this machine runs all day with no need to restart..
I tried out almost every setting and boot order in BIOS..but WHS won't boot in normal mode resp. crashed with blue screen after windows logo..
But as i said..i can live with emergeny mode.. :-)
Thanks, Andy

Ra6 said

at 8:28 pm on Jan 25, 2010

redhot, rather than waste too much time getting the 70 needed for WHS onto the IDE (which is locked in slow speed anyway), you might want to consider that you need to create a recovery disk and you will need to get a blank dom (they are cheap) and install the code fujitsu used if you ever need to recover WHS, which is a likely scenario over a couple of years use.

So to safely use a self installed OEM WHS on the ss4200E or EHW (non WHS retailed) you need to do some planning:
1) buy a dom and locate and put the software fujitus used in its WHS model to allow recover from client PC
see this: http://support.ts.fujitsu.com/download/showdescription_kmt.asp?ID=5BA15BF2-3687-4B7B-8901-7FDDFF99844D
2) build a recovery disk, which is possible on an OEM slipstream installation, but you are going to need to do before you start using WHS (so called point of no return)
see this: http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-IE/whssoftware/thread/8c3ea059-9928-4d7e-ae0f-49782bdcbfdc

Ra6 said

at 8:30 pm on Jan 25, 2010

In other words you can never recover if the WHS is in the IDE because the IDE is needed for memory module that instructs the machine on how to find a recovery disk to fix WHS.

redhotchili said

at 2:35 am on Feb 3, 2010

Thanks Ra6!
Meanwhile i give up my WHS via IDE cause as you said, the IDE port is locked to very slow speed.
Now i installed WHS via SATA. Unfortunately i had to give up my RAID5 array (WHS won't boot from RAID array greater than 2 TB) and let WHS duplicate important files for backup. I thinks thats the only solution for me..

Frank de Lange said

at 3:43 am on Feb 3, 2010

how about installing WHS on a USB stick and using it that way? Those should be visible even to Windows...

redhotchili said

at 3:56 am on Feb 3, 2010

Don't know if WHS will boot from USB stick (problems while WHS initialize USB driver?) And i think even a good USB stick is too slow (about 15MB/s) compared with current HDDs via SATA (about 100MB/s)..

Frank de Lange said

at 5:05 am on Feb 3, 2010

It is not ideal, true, but it might be the best alternative - if Windows boots from one. The speed should be less of an issue as the drive is only used to boot from and the most used code will end up in cache.

If Windows boots you should be able to keep your RAID this way.

Frank de Lange said

at 5:06 am on Feb 3, 2010

Of course you can always try to get familiar with FreeNAS or a Linux. It might save you more headaches than the familiarizing process causes?

redhotchili said

at 5:34 am on Feb 3, 2010

Okay thanks Frank, maybe i'll give it a try! :-)

Al said

at 12:13 pm on Feb 8, 2010

@WESHA

how did u setup ZFS on ur ss4200?

i am trying to setup FreeNas with ZFS on my ss4200

Wesha said

at 1:09 pm on Feb 8, 2010

@Al: There's a page on this wiki dedicated to FreeNAS. Read, and be enlightened.

Al said

at 1:17 pm on Feb 8, 2010

ok thx i will
its just that i am completely new to this

Ra6 said

at 10:12 am on Feb 10, 2010

Freinds,
I have added a link to the main and most active forums specifically for WHS on the ss4200. It is on WeGotServed.com fours wihich is a majoe WHS forum, and they have a specific and active sub- forum on WHS on this hardware.

David Wong said

at 2:56 am on Feb 11, 2010

Hi,

I need a help to migrate data manually since EMC Lifeline, Freenas, Openfiler don't support it on their web interface. linux has mdadm command that seems would achieve my migration scenario.

I have 2 2TB internal HD, both formatted as NTFS. I use SATA to USB dock to access them in Windows 7. I want RAID 5 to protect my data from the single drive failure scenario. One HD is 100% full, the other one is 50% full. I bought 2 new 2TB HDs. I really don’t want to lose the data while converting to 4 disk RAID 5 configuration using SS4200-e. Can someone please verify my steps to see if they work or not? I will test it on VMWare before performing it on the real rig. THANKS and any suggestions would be greatly appreciate.

Enable SSH.

Install 4 disk in the following order
/dev/sda is new 2TB HD
/dev/sdb is new 2TB HD
/dev/sdc is 2TB HD with 1TB data on NTFS
/dev/sdd is 2TB HD with 2TB data on NTFS

Ssh to the console

mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sda /dev/sdb missing missing

mkfs -t xfs -L RAID5 /dev/md0

mkdir /mnt/RAID5

mount /dev/md0 /mnt/RAID5

mkdir /mnt/1TB_HD

mount /dev/sdc /mnt/1TB_HD

rsync -avH --delete --progress -x /mnt/1TB_HD /mnt/RAID5

mkdir /mnt/2TB_HD

mount /dev/sdd /mnt/2TB_HD

rsync -avH --delete --progress -x /mnt/2TB_HD /mnt/RAID5

use blkid to get UUID of /dev/md0 and place in the /etc/fstab

nano /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf

mdadm --detail --scan >> /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf

update-initramfs -k `uname -r` -c -t

destroy the volumes on /dev/sdc and /dev/sdd

mdadm /dev/md0 –a /dev/sdc /dev/sdd

CyberLeo said

at 6:13 am on Feb 11, 2010

@David Wong: raid5 can only suffer the loss of, at most, one member. Creating a raid5 with two missing members will not function.

You may be able to create a 3-member degraded raid5 with 1 missing member, copy your data over, then add the newly freed disk to the RAID5 and wait for it to finish rebuilding; then copy and free up your fourth disk and reshape the array across all four. However, the reshape function in md has caused me grief in the past, and it is very strongly recommended that you back up all the data on the array prior to attempting reshape, so this pretty much moots your effort.

Unless you're really feeling adventurous (or suicidal), I would suggest getting one or two more disks to fashion a complete array without having to juggle and pray; and then just keep whatever you don't use as spares in case of disk failure in the array.

David Wong said

at 12:41 pm on Feb 11, 2010

Thanks CyberLeo!!!

EMC Lifeline supports 2 or 4 disks configuration. When 2 disks are installed, the RAID level is set to 1.

Install 2 new 2TB HDs and use the web interface to build RAID 1

Copy up to 2 TB of data from my old 2TB HDs via eSATA to the newly built RAID 1 array

Destroy the volume on the old 2TB HDs

Install them into slot 3 and 4 of ss4200-e

With 4 HDs in place, will I be able to select RAID 5 in the web interface? If yes, that’s great. If not, I have to run mdadm to re-shape the array then.

CyberLeo said

at 2:32 pm on Feb 11, 2010

@David Wong:
I'm afraid I am not familiar with the EMC Lifeline firmware. I build my own firmware based off FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-amd64.

However, given the common use case for consumer NAS firmwares, I would not be surprised if, assuming it were possible in the first place, it made you jump through hoops that would make hackers pale just to accomplish what you're suggesting, and at significant risk of data loss at that.

Given my knowledge of the Linux md driver, the only way to turn a 2-disk RAID1 into a RAID5 for reshaping is to destroy it and (carefully) recreate it without reinitializing the constituent disks. Certainly something that is not without risk, and can be difficult to recover if it goes awry.

Ben said

at 8:53 am on Feb 18, 2010

Hey All - great info here...I do have one issue with the EMC software on the DOM. I used a printer on this device which worked great. However, I purchased a new printer and I cannot remove the older printer from the Devices List on the webpage. Everytime I try and delete it, the page just refreshes, but the printer is still there. If someone knows the location in Linux for printer installs, I may be able to just delete it from there using ssh??

Gated said

at 6:19 am on Mar 5, 2010

To all the good information I have found from this forum. I would like to add few quick notes, which i have learned setting up 2008 with this box.
1) If you need to use IDE port with HD then you must configure in bios setting for IDE to "Compatible". Any Other setting will not work and Windows will not recognize IDE HDs.
2) Do keep in mind that adding IDE HD increases load on your PSU by 25 Watts. (Same thing to remember when trying to add PCI X1 t oX16 adapter and High power video cards). Overloading the PSU will blow it away.
3) I have not found 2008 Server driver for Si3132 ESATA Chipset for this box yet.



Gated said

at 6:40 am on Mar 5, 2010

Update to above comment.
Setting IDE to "Compatible" will take away the 2 sata ports and you will have 2 IDE ports and 2 Sata ports in windows.

Rafal said

at 1:18 am on Mar 6, 2010

Does anybody know how to edit twonkymedia-server.ini file. This file is loaded as read only during a boot and I would like to change enableweb setting from 1 to 2

# Web access
enableweb=1

Ben said

at 5:26 am on Mar 7, 2010

Rafal,

The only way I have heard to do this was to removed the DOM and mount it into a Linux Workstation somehow (using a IDE to USB adapter). If you find another way, let us know...but I think this locaiton is read-only when

Ben said

at 5:29 am on Mar 7, 2010

All - I also found out how to remove the printer that is no longer attached to my home serve(a few posts up)r...I had to install the Lifeline aoftware on my PC then delete it...I was try to do all of the printer management just using the web.

Frank de Lange said

at 5:51 am on Mar 7, 2010

Rafal,

If you have access to the serial console you should be able to boot the box using a usb memory stick containing some live linux distribution (grml comes to mind) and edit the file that way. This is easier than removing the DOM...

MrHappy said

at 2:57 am on Mar 9, 2010

Does anyone know how to get the default EMC software to recognize a USB attached UPS? I've tried 3 different UPS models and all 4 USB ports (on each model) with no luck.

Ben said

at 3:33 am on Mar 9, 2010

MrHappy - I was able to get my UPS to show up under the "PowerManagement" section, but it took about 2 hours and a reboot. I use the front USB port as well as the back and it worked for both. I think you may just need to reboot, or leave it pluged into a USB port for a few hours

FYI - the UPS looses power abd goes into the battery mode, the EMC software will shut the server down as expected (usually in about 1-2 minutes)

MrHappy said

at 1:29 pm on Mar 9, 2010

What kind of UPS was it? I tried rebooting (twice) and let it sit for hours, still shows nothing connected and I know the USB port is good, if I plug it into my PC it fires right up in the software.

Ben said

at 11:06 pm on Mar 9, 2010

MrHappy - I purchased a CyberPower UPS from MicroCenter (550VA UPS was the model number) (SKU at MicroCenter is 357939).
Have you updated the firmware on your HomeServer yet? I cant remember the latest version, but I think its the last version (this Home Server is no longer supported by Intel)

MrHappy said

at 1:50 am on Mar 11, 2010

Thanks... apparently my Belkin (pos but it was free) doesn't like this thing or vice versa as it just won't show up. (Left it connected overnight following a full shutdown/power up cycle) Firmware is the latest available from intel (around 10/2009 I believe)

MrHappy said

at 5:03 am on Mar 17, 2010

Has anyone connected to their box (with the EMC software/firmware updated) from an OpenSuse box? I'm trying to setup NFS and have enabled it on the Intel side, and rebooted. My Suse box sees the NFS shares under network services (browsing) but can't see any data inside (and the shares and not secured on the Intel at this time). If I try to setup a mount it finds the host but gives an Unable to mount the NFS entries from /etc/fstab when I click ok to enable it (using default settings) Any advice?

Rafal said

at 5:25 am on Apr 4, 2010

Frank de Lange & Ben,

I was able to mount DOM onto Linux (Fendora) and FS layout is completely different.

/grub
e2fs_stage1_5
menu.lst
stage1
stage2
/images
apps
config
initrd
oem
vmlinuz
/lost + found
/recovery_images
"same as images"

Anyway, it appears that all 3rd party including twonky is compiled into apps file. This file is pretty big since it has 33 MB and you can read anything there (vi, cat)....
It it appears there is no way to edit any files here unless you can recompile this apps file ... Does anybody have any other idea here?

jo said

at 4:44 pm on Apr 29, 2010

Gallymimus,

Did you get the Iomega soft to work on the SS4200?
Any new features of interest?

Thanks,
Jo.

d said

at 10:04 pm on May 11, 2010

I too would be interested if the IOMEGA s/w works onthe SS4200! Any progress? -d

NikonMan said

at 12:45 am on May 14, 2010

All,

I tried to install the Iomega NAS OS (EMC Lifeline v2) to the SS4200 ... it recognizes the image and starts the install, then fails with a cyrptic error message concerning incompatible hardware. Sorry guys ... anyways I am running FreenNAS 7.2 on one of my Intel NAS's and will soon install NexentaCore Community Edition
http://www.nexentastor.org/projects/site/wiki/CommunityEdition on the second one as soon as I get a larger DOM.

d said

at 4:41 am on Jan 8, 2011

Does anyone know where to get various prebuilt images for the SS4200-E? I'd like to use another system since Intel is no longer updating there but, if possible, I would rather avoid having to buy video cards and compile kernels or install from scratch. TIA! -d

d said

at 6:14 am on Jan 8, 2011

So with the above ISO, I can buy a DOM and just image it, plug it into the SS4200-E and it's up and running with some minor configuration? Thx.

Wesha said

at 6:18 am on Jan 8, 2011

There are some peculiarities when installing, see http://ss4200.pbworks.com/w/page/5122750/FreeNAS-0_70

Ben said

at 12:45 pm on Jan 24, 2012

Anyone able to use VMWARE converter to convert this machine into a VMWARE image? I cannot get VMware converter connect. getting error message "...must enable ssh deamon..." something like that....please help a *nix noob

Ben said

at 12:46 pm on Jan 24, 2012

and SSH is enabled using the ip/support.html

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